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Brady Raymond
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posted 9/19/2019 12:45:36 PM    Click here to view the profile for Brady Raymond  Click here to email Brady Raymond  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
I've posted links to four videos of my Grandfather Robert G. Raymond B/714th and some questions I was hoping people may have some answers too. Any help would be appreciated. Copy and past URL into browser and you should be sent to youtube. If anyone is interested but having trouble with the links feel free to email me.

bradyraymond@hotmail.com

Thanks in advance,


video 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByqO1NdMrxQ

This one is self explanatory.


video 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uUmiLqew2A&t=13s

Manley Warren and Edwin Blessing are listed as having been killed in March (22nd and 29th) in "Hellcats, the 12th Armored Division in WWII." As far as the other names go I don't see them listed anywhere with the 714th. I seem to remember this story much more graphically than he describes here. I would be very interested if any other stories like this exist, it would be interesting to find it from a P-47 pilot.

I see in March 1945 B company had 20 men missing in action and the AAR says on the 20th of March Task Force Norton had four tanks knocked out (20 men). I seem to remember in this story when he told it to me that the tank itself more or less vaporized and after the P-47's took out the gun he described driving through a vaporized cloud of his friends, no reason to stop, there was nothing to find, just keep going.

Seems to me that a 16in. shell could take out four tanks if they were close enough together, was the story even worse than what he told me? Does anyone know if this happened? Are the men who were listed as MIA taken as POW's? I'm not sure if these two events are connected but it seems possible.


Video 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iarN9IPvwLg&t=26s

I can't find much info on the T34 Rocket Launcher. It's my understanding that only a couple hundred of these were produced. Does anyone know more about this event? Does anyone know how many rocket launches went to the 12th or even the 714th and the date?


video 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfZN3jCig9U&t=16s

The 12th was never at St. Lo, I think he may be talking about St. Croix down near Colmar, or in my opinion the Saar-Palantinate region when Patton's 3rd Army surrounded the Germans, but these are just guesses on my part. Of course, after 60+ years I'm sure his memory had jumbled some things together, he must have been 86 or so when these video was shot.

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 9/22/2019 6:32:07 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Brady, have you read the After

Action Report for the 714th? It

is on the Museum website. See

the left column for After Action

Reports. You will see the 714th

has been retyped. It should have

all the locations of battalion HQ.

Mike

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 9/22/2019 6:53:51 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Brady, I erred. You are working from the 714th
AAR. On this website, on the left hand side, you
will find the list of Killed in Action. Scroll down to
the 714th. Of the 20 men listed as missing, I found
15 men survived and those mentioned as KIA on this
website. Osborne, Sams, Fred Dodge, Roger Smith,
Stanley Kulp......

I was unable to find your video number 2. I have not
tried the others.

Mike

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 9/23/2019 7:12:59 AM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
I was able to see all 4 videos. To do this, I had to
use a new "window", not a new "tab." In the first
video, your grandfather mentions Colmar. This is
near Strasbourg, He mentions another town that
begins with St.......

In the 4th? video, he mentions the French troops.
Actually they were French colonial troops from Morocco.
These troops were famous for doing exactly what your grandfather mentions in such gruesome detail.

In another video he mentions that the Germans used the 16 inch railroad gun. I am surprised that anyone
in a tank hit by that shell survived.

I had no idea that a tank mounted with those
rockets equaled the fire power of a battalion of
105s firing together!

Thank you for making your grandfather'si nterviews available. They give a raw picture of what the men
experienced.

Mike