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mhargrove
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posted 2/18/2018 10:22:29 AM    Click here to view the profile for mhargrove  Click here to email mhargrove  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Where did Troop C fight during the war? Also, were any members of the 92nd Cav Rec SQ also Rangers? Thanks.

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posted 2/18/2018 11:06:26 AM  Reply w/Quote
GO TO bOOKS & Written Experiences. then scroll down to 92nd. Also check oral histories for members report

Bob Scherer
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posted 2/18/2018 11:49:15 AM    Click here to view the profile for Bob Scherer  Click here to email Bob Scherer  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
I'll work up an answer for you, but, as with all American Soldiers I work better when knowing why you ask. Is there a particular man you are reaching? I can send you 92 Recon AARs for Dec 44-Sep 45 if that would help.
Bob Scherer

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posted 2/18/2018 6:30:10 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hello,
See the Squadron History in BOOKS AND WRITTEN
EXPERIENCES. For Troop C, see pages 53-73.

I have read nothing about the Rangers in any
of the books and articles about the 12th Armored.

Also, look on the left side for Oral History Videos.
Click on the column heading labeled BATTALION.
There are 16 videos from the 92nd and 2 are from Troop C.


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posted 2/18/2018 8:38:02 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
I meant to suggest that when you click on
BATTALION, this sorts all the interviews into
battalion groups. The 92nd is about 3
steps from the end.

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posted 2/19/2018 2:32:05 PM  Reply w/Quote
are you looking for John J hARGROOVE

mhargrove
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posted 2/19/2018 6:42:39 PM    Click here to view the profile for mhargrove  Click here to email mhargrove  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Thank you everyone for your replies. I will follow all suggestions with respect to battles fought by the 92nd.

Bob - I'm inquiring because my father served in the 92nd. My siblings and I all remember hearing that our dad was an Army Ranger. But his papers do not mention Army Ranger. We have a picture of him in uniform with what we were told was a Ranger patch. So I'm trying to confirm if he was or was not an Army Ranger.

Thanks again for all of your quick replies.

mhargrove
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posted 2/19/2018 6:45:04 PM    Click here to view the profile for mhargrove  Click here to email mhargrove  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Yes. My father is John J Hargrove.

Bob Scherer
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posted 2/19/2018 7:52:44 PM    Click here to view the profile for Bob Scherer  Click here to email Bob Scherer  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
To the best of my knowledge there were no Ranger slots in the 92nd Recon. That means there were no men assigned to the 92nd BECAUSE they were Ranger trained and there was no one sent to Ranger training BECAUSE they were assigned to the 92nd. That does not mean there were not men who had completed Ranger training who wound up being assigned to the 92nd. Or, men who were assigned to the 92nd who volunteered for Ranger training and left the 92nd to go to that training. I hope I haven't confused you. I'm sorry that I haven't had the time to go through all the after action reports and trace the route of C Troop for you. I will get to it, but it will probably take me a few hours and I may have to do it a piece at a time. Do you have John's discharge papers or any other documents relating to his overall service? It may help me figure out the Ranger assignment. Bob

mhargrove
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posted 2/19/2018 9:08:44 PM    Click here to view the profile for mhargrove  Click here to email mhargrove  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hi Bob,
Thank you so much for your response. I greatly appreciate your time and dedication. I also want to thank you for your service to our country.
I do have my fathers discharge papers. His serial number is 32 576 935. His military occupational specialty was Mach Gunner Heavy 605. He fought in Central Europe; Rhineland; GO 33 & 45. He was born and raised in Kingston, NY and died there in the late 1980's.
I would greatly appreciate hearing about whatever you discover, if and when you find the time to do the research.
Once again, Bob, thank you very much.

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posted 2/19/2018 9:34:39 PM    Click here to view the profile for Bob Scherer  Click here to email Bob Scherer  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Thanks very much. I'll send you an offline email requesting a bit more info. If you see the message on the board below yours you'll see I'm going to research personnel files in St Louis in April. Your Dad's service number is key. One question - we have 2 addresses in Kingston for 2 John J. Hargroves, one in HQ, 56th Armored Infantry Battalion and one in C Troop, 92nd. They are 76 W. Union St and 2 Kingston St. Did you Dad live at both addresses or do we have a cousin or an amazing coincidence? Thanks! Bob

mhargrove
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posted 2/19/2018 9:56:55 PM    Click here to view the profile for mhargrove  Click here to email mhargrove  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hi Bob,
My dad grew up at the West Union Street address. My mom grew up at the 2 Kingston Street address. They were not married during his service (as far as I know). My grandparents (my mom's parents) may have offered him living quarters, I really don't know. I have one remaining aunt who I can ask (my mothers favorite sister). Two of my mothers brothers also served in WWII, but their last names were DeCicco.
Thanks Bob.
Michael Hargrove


Bob Scherer
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posted 2/20/2018 8:16:32 AM    Click here to view the profile for Bob Scherer  Click here to email Bob Scherer  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Thanks Michael. It's interesting that he used two different addresses in two separate battalions in the same division. Maybe he used the Kingston St address second because he felt it was an address he could be sure to be reached at. It could be a clue as to which unit he was in first...Union street first, Kingston second. The search continues...
Bob

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posted 2/23/2018 2:55:27 PM    Click here to view the profile for harry dhans  Click here to email harry dhans  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
John J. Hargrove -
enlisted 10/13/1942
picture in HCN sEPT. 1988
LISTED AS A Private IN C troop of 92nd Squadron as of June 1945. Address 2 Kingston ST. listed in later HCN as B 56.
mention of obituary in HCN OF oCT 1989.
Harry, archivist at 12th A D Museum

mhargrove
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posted 3/7/2018 5:13:40 PM    Click here to view the profile for mhargrove  Click here to email mhargrove  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Thank you Harry.