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Pam
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posted 9/26/2015 9:53:40 PM    Click here to view the profile for Pam  Click here to email Pam  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
My father, Wilson Dent, was a Staff Sgt. with the 12th. I know he was in Germany and Italy. What I would like to know is, was the 12th with Patton? If so, during what year/s? I can not get my Dad's records as they say they were destroyed. Can anyone help me?
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Pam Dent

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posted 9/28/2015 12:47:31 PM  Reply w/Quote
17000 man roster says he was with 23rd Armored Tank Battalion "C"
I eill look for more info on Tuesday

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posted 9/28/2015 1:30:59 PM  Reply w/Quote
you can read about the 23rd in a book in Books & Written Experiences on this site

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 9/28/2015 9:46:47 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hi Pam, The 12th Armored was briefly
detached from the 7th Army and
attached to the 3rd Army under Patton's
command. This occurred on March 17th, 1945
and they were told to remove their identifying
insignia and head from Trier towards the Rhine River to try and capture a bridge. They arrived at Speyer on March 23rd, but the Germans had just blown up the bridge. So they moved to Worms and crossed on a pontoon bridge on March 28th. Two days (or so) later they left Patton and returned to the
7th ARmy. They headed east, and a few days
later were redirected to head south in the
direction of Munich....
Read BOOKS AND WRITTEN EXPERIENCES find memoirs of your Dad's unit.

Also see the Oral History interviews of the
men in his battalion.

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posted 9/30/2015 12:11:40 PM  Reply w/Quote
Pam, also, if your father was with the 12th Armored, he would not have been in Italy. That is, unless he was with a different unit that operated in Italy, then he was transferred to the 12th Armored; or he was transferred out of the 12th Armored, into a unit in Italy. The 12th Armored ended-up crossing the northern border of Austria and halted a few kilometers into that part of the country. The division did not advance into Italy.

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 10/2/2015 11:01:53 AM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Some men of the 12th Armored visited Italy
shortly after the war. Orville Sarles of
the 493rd Armored Field Artillery had his
picture taken at the Brenner Pass and
told me he went into Italy.So far as I know
a battalion of the 12th did not fight in
Italy

Mike Woldenberg


harry dhans
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posted 10/13/2015 12:00:29 PM    Click here to view the profile for harry dhans  Click here to email harry dhans  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
SOME OF THE REPLACEMENTS WERE IN Italy. WERE TRANSFERRED WHEN WAR IN Italy ENDED.

Pam
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posted 11/15/2015 8:34:50 AM    Click here to view the profile for Pam  Click here to email Pam  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Thank you for all the replies. Has given me more to research. Sigh, work get in the way of my research.
Pam