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brad cox
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posted 6/9/2015 4:34:31 PM    Click here to view the profile for brad cox  Click here to email brad cox  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hello. was curious as to why Captain Burnett Beach is not listed on the 17,000 man roster? any help would be nice. My father George W Light served under him in company B at Herrlisheim. Thanks Brad

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 6/9/2015 7:47:33 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hello Brad, Capt. Burnett Beach's name is listed in another,
very long roster that contains the names of
men from the 17th, 56th and 66th Armored Infantry Battalions. The 17,000 man roster is big, but not comprehensive. In practice some of us have used the roster I mentioned,
or we have looked into the rosters in some of the battalion histories, etc.

You might want to consult the following from the list of BOOKS AND WRITTEN EXPERIENCES.

In the 56th Section:
Initial Assault on Herrlisheim by the 56th
and 714th.

Also see the book by John Nugent.
Also, go to the library and take out
BRENDAN PHIBBS' book: THE OTHER SIDE OF TIME. The second edition is known as
OUR WAR FOR THE WORLD.

In the Division Section:

World War II Magazine.

Mike Woldenberg





brad cox
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posted 6/9/2015 11:34:13 PM    Click here to view the profile for brad cox  Click here to email brad cox  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Thanks Mike. I read Dale Millers nightmare in Herrlisheim. Very detailed and good reading. My dad always referred to Burnett as Bob. I have read in other accounts of men calling him Bob as well. I have an interesting and odd piece of information. Out of curiosity I got the published addresses of all the personnel in the 56th armored infantry battalion. then separated out those KIA. I went on google earth and found where many of these men lived at one time. Obviously over the years many things have changed such as they don't exist anymore. However I have a list of 16 individuals where the homes are now vacant lots. There are homes on either side and even behind them, but their home is gone. I find that too ironic, even eerie.

harry dhans
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posted 6/10/2015 12:32:30 PM    Click here to view the profile for harry dhans  Click here to email harry dhans  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Burnett Beach was a sergeant in the National Guard when he enlisted in 1941. Also found him listed in "B" 56 and WIA.

brad cox
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posted 6/10/2015 1:59:43 PM    Click here to view the profile for brad cox  Click here to email brad cox  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hello harry. He was wounded I the leg very early on during the battle for Herrlisheim. He continued to scramble and get his men organized before they were able to remove him for medical treatment. My dad, brother and I had the privilege of visiting with him in 1992 at his home in Santa Maria. I wish I could go back to that time because I have so many more question I would liked to of asked.

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 6/10/2015 2:18:13 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Brad, Your analysis showing many house locations are
vacant lots is fascinating. (The cause might be that the family lost a breadwinner, or simply was too depressed
to maintain the home).

Now I have a further suggestion: Collect similar information for a similar number of men who survived the war. You should find men from the same towns, if at all possible.
You will end up with the following data:

Men who were killed in action, homes intact, vs homes disappeared.

Men who survived: 1) homes intact vs. homes disappeared.

It is not necessary to have the same number in the KIA or
survivor group.

The next step is to create a 2 by 2 Chi Square Table
which I will be glad to do for you. We can see whether
the proportions are statistically significant.


brad cox
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posted 6/10/2015 3:09:29 PM    Click here to view the profile for brad cox  Click here to email brad cox  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Mike. I'm glad you have the same fascination as I do. I have already started that process. For obvious reasons I started with the KIA for the list is much shorter. There is also another theory. When a lot of these men came home they were revered as hero's and many small communities would stage welcoming home parades and other festivities. Maybe some considered it to be hollowed ground never to be disturbed or occupied again. I have documented the current condition of the homes as they appear today. I found it fascinating that many are still intact and are of the period. One home is now a sidewalk caf once home to Edwin Kasnachey in Buffalo NY. Another is a real estate office, another is an orthodontist office. Some are now warehouses, high rises, parking lots,junkyards and even freeways. You are right,many of them are from the same neighborhood and probably mustered in together. All walks of life make up this whole unit from lower class to very rich. There is a very ritzy mansion in Manhasset NY once occupied by Robert Aretz. Thought I would find more rural farm boys, but only two so far. It will take me some time to compile the survival list.

harry dhans
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posted 6/10/2015 3:49:42 PM    Click here to view the profile for harry dhans  Click here to email harry dhans  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
In the meantime, the men in the first platoon had alread gone through this room and the courtyard outside, preparatory to attacking southward. Technical Sergeant James R. Gully and Capt. Beach sent them to the barn and along the west wall in order to make room for the other two platoons. As this was taking place, the Germans threw a 120mm mortar barrage along the road through La Breymuhl causing three casualties, Capt beach and Tech. Sgt Gulley, both injuried in the legs; and PFC. David Mohr

brad cox
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posted 6/10/2015 4:25:10 PM    Click here to view the profile for brad cox  Click here to email brad cox  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hello Harry. I'm curious. What is your connection with this site? relative of one who served? history buff?

harry dhans
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posted 6/10/2015 10:24:52 PM    Click here to view the profile for harry dhans  Click here to email harry dhans  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
I am the archivist at the 12th Armored Division Museum in Abilene.

brad cox
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posted 6/11/2015 12:55:21 AM    Click here to view the profile for brad cox  Click here to email brad cox  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
That is wonderful. No wonder you have a wealth of knowledge. I look forward to hearing more from you. All you are to be commended for the work you do to keep this history alive, and I personally thank you so much.

brad cox
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posted 6/12/2015 3:27:52 PM    Click here to view the profile for brad cox  Click here to email brad cox  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Harry/Mike: Can either of you tell me anything about George W Light, my father. I've read everything I can find. Unfortunately he rarely mentioned anything about the war or his involvement. Through my mom and stepmom I got bits and pieces. I am assuming he was in company B because he did talk about Bob Beach. The roster has HQ?. My mom said he spent some months in a hospital in England with frost bite and shell shock. Very shortly after the war he changed his last name to Cox. After petitioning for many years he finally received a Bronze Star on 3-20-1992. He died in 1994 of lymphoma cancer one day short of his 70th birthday. He was from a logging family out of St Maries Idaho. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks Brad.

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 6/12/2015 8:03:05 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Brad, I found a picture of your Dad in the
Hellcat News, Feb. 1982, page 33. He is pictured with Art Kinney. Art is living, so
you can talk to him. I will send you his
information by email. Your Dad sent in the
picture, using the name George Cox.

Go to this website:

http://texashistory.unt.edu/explore/partners/TADM/browse/

Click on the first item, and then scroll down
until you find a box where you can enter the
name: "George Light" in quotes. Since your Dad also used the name "George Cox" you
should enter that in another search.

Your Dad was in B-56, not HQ company.

Mike

brad cox
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posted 6/12/2015 9:04:21 PM    Click here to view the profile for brad cox  Click here to email brad cox  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Thanks Mike. I knew he went to a reunion, didn't realize it was that long ago. Thank you for Arts info, I will contact him. Was curious if there was any documentation as to what, when and where was he. Was he one of those that had to be picked up after being trapped in Herrlisheim? Thanks Brad

brad cox
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posted 6/12/2015 9:19:24 PM    Click here to view the profile for brad cox  Click here to email brad cox  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Yes Mike he was a boxer.

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 6/13/2015 5:57:29 AM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Brad, The picture was apparently taken
during training, not at a reunion.

I was unable to read the article on the
boxing match or boxing team, but apparently
your Dad was a light heavyweight.

I have some other men from B-56 for you to
contact. I will send these by email.

Mike

brad cox
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posted 6/14/2015 12:37:46 AM    Click here to view the profile for brad cox  Click here to email brad cox  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Thanks Mike. I got an e-mail back from Art. My brother Sean lives near Stockton and is making arrangements to meet with him. Sean and I are both making plans to fly to France next August and visit Herrlisheim and all points in between.C9T1