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posted 10/30/2014 10:03:09 PM  Reply w/Quote
Just attempting to try and find out any information regarding my grandfather Ernest L. Strong from Isabel, Kansas. He was a Staff Sergeant and tank commander of the tank "Twinkle Toes." He was injured and taken prisoner along the Austrian border on May 3rd, 1945 in an attack on his tank where John Dowling was unfortunately KIA. Thanks for your help.

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posted 10/31/2014 8:21:43 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hello, can you please give the name of the
Battalion and Company? The information on the 17,000 man roster is inadequate in this case.

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posted 11/1/2014 9:32:02 AM  Reply w/Quote
I am not for sure on battalion/company as I was going off what I was able to find on the website. We are looking for his discharge papers as we speak and hopefully I will have those by the end of the weekend to let you know. Thank you for your willingness to help.

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posted 11/1/2014 11:46:39 AM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
The 17,000 Man Roster has the following
very incomplete information:

E Strong, Headquarters Co., Combat Command A.

Usually they give the complete name. Also,
the HQ Co. might have a couple of tanks.

The other possibility is that he was in one of the tank battalions. You could consult the unit history books on our website: Go to BOOKS AND WRITTEN EXPERIENCES. Scroll down to the histories of the 23rd Tank Battalion, and the 43rd. The 714th does not have a unit history, but if things do not work out, we can consult some after action reports or other sources.
Please get in touch with me by regular email.
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posted 11/1/2014 12:16:18 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
SURPRISE!!!!!

I entered into Google:

Twinkle Toes Tank WW2

Out pops a picture of the crew of the tank and the tank as well: John Dowling, Strong, Badilla and Hamilton.

"Photograph of the crew of the tank "Twinkletoes", posing near the Main River in Wurzburg, Germany. They are identified as John Dowling, Strong, Badilla, and Hamilton, and they each hold a bottle and smoke cigars."

I then looked up those names on the Roster
of "17,000 Members" on the left side. Dowling was not there. But the other 3 were
listed as:
H Hamilton HQ Co. Combat Command A,
R.F. Badilla HQ Co. Combat Command A,
E. Strong HQ Co. Combat Command A.

Evidently the man who made the roster for this HQ Company only used initials, a practice that was probably unique. Most of the other men on this big roster have their first names and middle initial or middle name.

Combat Command A was composed of the 66th Armored Infantry Battalion, the 43rd Tank Battalion and the 493rd Armored Field Artillery, plus some attachments from other service battalions. Similarily for CCB and
CCR. The HQ Co. for CCA contained the officers and men needed to run this part of the Division (one third of the Division).

So E. STrong was in Twinkle Toes in CCA HQ Company. To know more about what he was involved in, read the books about the 66th,
the 43rd and the 493rd.

Mike Woldenberg




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posted 11/1/2014 2:05:59 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hello again. If you want to hear some video interviews from people from HQ Co. , CCA,
go to ORAL HISTORY INTERVIEWS on the left
side of this page.

See:Earl Nichols, also (John N./Orin Berg/Smith) also Donna Berg, also Raymond Ince.


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posted 11/1/2014 11:59:54 PM  Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for all your research! I will dive into those pieces and keep you updated with anything new I find!

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posted 11/2/2014 9:26:15 PM  Reply w/Quote
Mike,
would you be able to tell me if Lloyd De Luca, CCA is still alive? He wrote and editorial in a 2009 Hell Cat News that referenced the day that my grandfather was injured. If afforded the opportunity I would love to contact him and get the story. Thanks again for all your help

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posted 11/3/2014 6:55:38 AM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
I am sorry to say Mr. DeLuca is deceased.
His wife is still living at last report.
If you want to contact her, or the family,
I can send you the address, etc. on my email
account.

geomike@buffalo.edu

Mike

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posted 11/3/2014 9:31:56 AM  Reply w/Quote
That would be great as I will send you an email! Also do you have any contact information about the H. Hamilton or the Ray Badilla that are in the pictures you have found? Thank you!

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posted 11/10/2014 1:42:19 PM  Reply w/Quote
Mike,
Why would my grandfather have both the 12th armored division patch as well as a 7th army patch on his uniform? What would have been the connection?

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posted 11/10/2014 6:13:53 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
The 12th Armored Division was part of the
7th Army. Go to Google and look up:

7th Army WW2 Order of Battle

This will give you all the divisions in the
7th Army. Click on the 12th Armored Division
for even more information.

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posted 11/11/2014 4:07:42 PM  Reply w/Quote
Mike,
I have been given some information about possibly seeing if my grandfather would be eligible for a bronze star and a POW medal. This were given to infantry, which on his discharge papers he is listed as. I know this can be a long process but would like my grandfather to get the recognition he deserves, even if that is posthumously. Through the hell cat newsletter I have a eye witness account to what had happened the day he was injured and that he was taken POW. However, on no records of the 12th armored division was he listed as a POW. Do I have a leg to stand on or was he transferred out of the the infantry unit and into HQ CCA, as I know they moved troops quite frequently. Again thanks for all your help in the process.

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posted 11/11/2014 6:56:45 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hi, One thing to make more clear. Soldiers with HQ Combat Command A or B or C may well have seen fighting. After all the tanks and other soldiers were
probably there to defend the HQ and may have
been sent on missions to engage the enemy.

Possibly the After Action Report for Combat Command A might have a record of the men who were taken prisoner. Contact Harry at the Museum to see if they have that report for May, 1945.

Harry: dhali44@cs.com

I will send a message about the
Bronze star a little later.

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posted 11/11/2014 9:40:35 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hi, It turns out that you can get a Bronze Star for your grandfather if you can find the document that awarded him the Combat Infantryman's badge. First, here is the
website that describes the process for the
Bronze Star retroactively:

http://www.100thww2.org/bronzestarpage.html

Now there is no doubt that your grandfather
was awarded the Combat Infantryman's Badge.
Here is how to find the documents.

Go the the National Archives at College Park,
Maryland or perhaps the Eisenhower Library in Abilene Kansas. Also, contact the Museum
of the 12th Armored in Abilene, Texas.

You want to see the files for Combat Command A of the 12th Armored. You are looking for
General Orders which will list the names of the men who received the Combat Infantryman's Badge. These General Orders will also contain the names and citations of
men who earned medals. Sometimes the names are recorded in the After Action Reports for each Battalion or for Combat Command A, or B or R.

I will now look for POW information.
Mike

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Here is the website to use to get the
POW medal.


http://www.axpow.org/powmedal.htm

Mike Woldenberg

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posted 11/15/2014 12:21:51 PM    Click here to view the profile for harry dhans  Click here to email harry dhans  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
version I read said he was wounded and captured but released the next day or two

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posted 11/17/2014 3:05:46 PM  Reply w/Quote
Was that the version from the Hell Cat Newsletter, Harry? Any luck on any of the after action reports, etc? thanks again for all that you do!