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James Lindsey
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posted 10/8/2012 12:21:59 PM    Click here to view the profile for James Lindsey  Click here to email James Lindsey  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
I am looking for information on my uncle that was killed in action on april 10 1945 in the town of Reusch, Germany he was 31 years old, from Alabama. His grave marker has 17th Infantry Battaion 12th Armord Division. The 17th company A was in this town on April 10, 1945, also the 101st calve. grope which became a part of the 12th armored on April 8, 1945 was near Reusch. The 12th has posted this in ther Hellcat news letter. Also when he went over seas in 1942, was listed as pvt.lcl John Harold Robinson. Does enyone know the (lcl) stands for.

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 10/9/2012 1:21:34 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hello Again, It is probable that your uncle was in Co. A,
or possibly Co. B. I have determined he was not in Co. C.
(See Roster in the book MOUNT UP). Our extended roster
(not on the web) does not mention his company.

I assume you contacted Bill Funke (unit rep. for the 17th)
and did not receive any useful information. If you want to
contact him (but have not yet done so) contact me.

You state that he went overseas in 1942. Thus he belonged to another division, and was transferred into the
12th Armored at a later date. He may have been wounded and was transferred after recovery. On the other hand, I know of a soldier who fought the Japanese
in the Aleutians, and then transferred into the 12th Armored sometime later. He was also in the 17th AIB, by the way.

If no one from the small number of living veterans can
remember your uncle, then you may have to consult
the national archives in College Park, Maryland. Also, you
may have to consult the national archives in St. Louis.
You may find references to the action at Reusch on
April 10th, by consulting various books on our list. I recall you have consulted the memoir by Lyons. It turns out that several authors have written on the 17th, and their
works are on this website.

With regard to your question: pvt.lcl John Harold Robinson MIGHT TRANSLATE TO pfc John Harold
Robinson. (That is, "private first class")

Try and find out the division he was with in 1942.
What did he do, and was he wounded?
Mike Woldenberg

James Lindsey
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posted 10/10/2012 11:03:02 PM    Click here to view the profile for James Lindsey  Click here to email James Lindsey  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hello Mike:
This is what I have got so far;
John applied for life insurence Feb. 1943 through The army at Headquarters 107th sep ca bn (AA) APO 302. Letter home in July 19,1943 was in a replacement camp in North Africa. The last letter home was written on Red Cross paper dated January 8, 1945 and had Italy at top of page and this was his address: 77-REPL. Co 177 REPL. BN. APO 760900 Post Master New York New York.
As of now there is nothen that said that he was at any time wouned. He and one other that is listed as 17th AIB company C as being laid to rest in the town civilian cemetery Reusch, Germany. I belive John became a part of the 17th sometime mid January or Febuary 1945.
I'll keeping looking and reading in these books and written experience. thanks again for your time
James

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 10/11/2012 12:25:03 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hello Jim, 107th Sep ca bn (AA) APO 302

This translates as: 107th Separate Coastal Artillery Battalion
(Anti Aircraft). APO 302 is a general address for members of
this battalion and other units stationed in a certain geographic area. (Army Post Office 302). I do not know
where 302 was, but I assume it was North Africa, perhaps
Morocco, but that is a guess.

77th REPL. Co. 177th REPL. BN. APO 760900
translates as 77th Replacement Company, 177th
Replacement Battalion, APO 760900.

I assume 760900 was in N. Africa or probably Italy.

He seemed to be in a Replacement camp from July 19
1943 and again on Jan. 8, 1945.

Perhaps the coastal artillery unit in N. Africa
was not no longer needed, once the Germans
(Rommel) retreated back to Italy. Nevertheless, it does
seem as though he was in the Replacement camps over
1.5 years. Maybe he was needed there. Maybe he was
reassigned and then wounded in between the two camps.

Because the 17th took such terrible losses in Herrlisheim,
in the Steinwald (a forest), around about January 16 to 20? there was a need for replacements.
So John Harold Robinson probably joined the 17th in
late January or early February, as they recuperated from
the battle of Herrlisheim. The first action that he probably
saw was the battle closing the Colmar pocket.

That's it for now.

Mike

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 10/11/2012 12:31:44 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
I forgot to mention: go to GOOGLE:

Enter: 107th sep ca bn (AA)

Also try: 107th Separate Coastal Artillery Battalion

Different things will come up. Scroll down to a site:
World War 2 pictures Photo Gallery by Nancy Landry at
pbase.com. She has posted pictures of her father who
was in the same battalion as your uncle!

JohnHaroldneiceinlaw
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posted 5/25/2013 2:23:23 AM    Click here to view the profile for JohnHaroldneiceinlaw  Click here to email JohnHaroldneiceinlaw  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hi James,

Are you related to Jesca Lindsey Robinson? She is now deceased, I was her daughter-in-law. My late husband took many pictures of John Harold's grave site that I have provided the family. May I help you with any questions and would you like a copy of the pictures of the beautiful cemetary where John Harold rests?
Helen


James Lindsey
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posted 6/7/2013 10:22:40 PM    Click here to view the profile for James Lindsey  Click here to email James Lindsey  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Jesca Lindsey Robinson, was married to my uncle Aldred Gordon Robinson, brother to John Harold Robinson. Yes she is kin to me on both sides.