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Pinball
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posted 7/19/2012 11:25:53 PM    Click here to view the profile for Pinball  Click here to email Pinball  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
In trying to piece together a story from my grandfather (92nd Cavalry Recon Squadron Troop F), I'm hoping to find the actual date of his buddy's death. I find this person's name on many KIA lists, but never the date of death. Is there a good resource for this somewhere?
If I knew when it occurred I would know approximately WHERE. All registries seem to omit the date of death.

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 7/20/2012 5:01:34 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hello Pinball, Look on the left side:
BOOKS AND WRITTEN EXPERIENCES.
Click on SQUADRON HISTORY OF THE 92ND
RECON. SQUADRON (MECHANIZED) You did not
give the name and "Troop" (Company) of the soldier who was killed.
However, you might find his name in the
book in the chapter on that troop.

Also, if that does not work, you
might try going to the HELLCAT NEWS ARCHIVE.
Enter the last name of the soldier and I am
told the search engine will search the last
60 plus years of the Hellcat News for his
name. (I have made this work within a single back issue of the Hellcat News.
Also, you might get lucky by listening to the
Oral History Videos from the 92nd from the
same "Troop" (i.e. Company).

Finally you can get in touch with the
unit Rep. for the 92nd. Connie Olson
rcolson@nemr.net, or Judy Jansky
jjansky@hot.rr.com

Mike Woldenberg

Pinball
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posted 7/21/2012 1:55:19 AM    Click here to view the profile for Pinball  Click here to email Pinball  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Thanks Mike.
I've had a look through these as you've suggested. The big break was finding his name (William Capra, also of Troop F) on a field report filed for the 92nd. He's listed as KIA on March 20, 1945. Now I just need to ascertain where the 92nd was on that day..

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 7/21/2012 6:46:13 AM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hi Pinball, On March 21, Troop F arrived in Mutterstadt, just west of the Rhine, and just north of Speyer. So the place you are looking for would not be far and probably
just north of Mutterstadt. The division was
moving towards Speyer, hoping to capture
the bridge on the Rhine. As it happened,
the Germans blew up the bridge, and the
12th Armored had to head north? to Worms where they crossed the Rhine on about March
26 or 27 (I have to look that up).

My Uncle, Lt. Chuck Willis;, A-56, was killed
in Speyer on March 23.

Mike



MikeWoldenberg
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posted 7/21/2012 6:57:15 AM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Pinball!!!!!

See page 101 of the SQUADRON HISTORY OF THE
92ND RECON SQUADRON (MECH.) There is a
full paragraph about Bill Capra. He was the
beloved cook of F Troop. He was killed by a
sniper as he captured some German soldiers.

The exact date or place is not given, but
the date you have given fits, and the location
for that date is probably just north of
Mutterstadt.

Mike

Pinball
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posted 7/21/2012 11:29:25 AM    Click here to view the profile for Pinball  Click here to email Pinball  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Wow, can't believe I missed that. That's him all right.
My grandfather is gone now, but as the story went: someone thought they might have seen a German soldier along the edge of the woods at the top of a hill. Bill and my grandfather (Joe Bren) jumped in a tank and drove it up near the treeline - my grandfather driving. Once at the top, Bill flipped open the hatch with his greasegun at the ready to have a look. Well, at the very next instant a bullet hit him in the neck and he fell dead back into the tank.
Adding to the situation, my grandfather said he couldn't get the tank started - all the while being fired on. He eventually got one engine started and after firing off some rounds himself, got out of there. Turned out the Germans were dug in all through those woods and there was even a Tiger tank with them. Where, exactly, this happened I really don't know.

These are just the details I heard from my grandfather, Joe. For the most part he never wanted to talk about the war and I feel fortunate to have heard anything at all on the subject.