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suchosju
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posted 2/7/2011 9:05:33 AM    Click here to view the profile for suchosju  Click here to email suchosju  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Dear members,

First I wan´t to apologise for my bad English.

I´m 20 years old and a historican from Germany, i live in den near of Buchen and Mudau. I am interested very much about the war events in my area which were also influenced through the 12th US armoured division.

Unfortunately, there are only a few and incomplete reports from the end of the war in our area, here so I would like to ask for and would be glad if somebody
could help me .

It is primarily about 31st of March and 1st of April, 1945.

After the US troops crossed the Rhine and from Blaufelden coming over Kailbach northeast after Amorbach and then further up to the river Tauber.
Besides, a part of the troops turned to the east to Schlossau where some German soldiers were surprised and were captured. While to troops going about Amorbach hardly opposition agreed by Jerrys. They came quite fast up to the Tauber area, other to the river called Main.

From Schlossau further to Mudau to the moving US soldiers came to Mudau and further about Buchen. In Mudau fights should have been, I have for it, unfortunately, no specifics....

There are southeast from Buchen a monument, near the street branching off to Hettingen between Eberstadt and Buchen, there was German 3.7 cm AA and died a German soldier in the fights with the US troops.

I have in reports of the 12th US tank division, read that two Task Forces on the 31st of March, consisting of the 92nd Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron (Mechanized) , the 342. FA Bn and two plattons medium tanks.

The Task Force which operated north was called Task Force Bartholomew , the southern, Task Force Cobb.


I´m searching for informatuion about
- battles at Mudau and

- about the two Task Forces Bartholomew & Cobb

Task Force Bartholomew met et afternoon of the 31st March resistance, as they went from Buch at Ahorn to Heckfeld. In the dense woods, they met first a troop of approximately 30 german soldiers which fired at the Task Force and destroyed an US jeep. The US TaskForce withdrew into cover and ordered more troops.
These surrounded the German fight group and captured them.

My question: died there some german soldiers?
Because in the reports is only one happening

In the US report on the procedure it is reported which was surprised in the middle of the wood a to the west marching row of German soldiers, and was fired. Besides, 30 Germans died and 30 were arrested.

On that place is a monument for 26 died soldiers, they were 15-17 years old as they got shot. In the reports is told about 30 killed, are the 4 which missing, killed in the battles before that happening?
Because there are no burried soldiers at the first firefight.



I would be glad if someone could answer my question.

Best regards

jurgen.


MikeWoldenberg
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posted 2/7/2011 7:25:52 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Jurgen, To start, you might look under
BOOKS AND WRITTEN EXPERIENCES. Go through
each book, looking for the dates April first
(Easter Sunday) 1945. Look for the places that you mention. (These names are not familiar to me, and I wonder whether there was another Armored Division, or an Infantry Division involved with the 12th Armored Division.)

Begin by reading the book about
the 92nd Recon and any other Battalions that you think were involved.

I will look into this in a month, when I
return from a trip.

suchosju
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posted 2/15/2011 7:07:15 AM    Click here to view the profile for suchosju  Click here to email suchosju  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hi, thank you for the answer, but i allready read all reports in the menu "Books and Written Experiences" ....

I hoped for nearer information, if there is any.


Regards Jurgen

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 2/16/2011 12:47:05 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Jurgen, Please contact me on March 1.
I am traveling (Hawaii) and do not have
my records with me. If you lived in the
USA, you might go to the National Archives
in College Park, Maryland. Or you might
go to St. Louis, National Archives. YOu
would search for Monthly reports in College
Park, or Morning Reports in St. Louis.
On the other hand, I have a few Monthly
Reports (not the exact title) at home. I
can look there.

Mike Woldenberg, geomike@buffalo.edu

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 2/17/2011 1:18:38 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Jurgen, Please see the SQUADRON HISTORY OF
THE 92ND RECON....

read pages 40, 84, 90 and 101

This will help with several details.

Mike

suchosju
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posted 3/30/2011 6:04:07 AM    Click here to view the profile for suchosju  Click here to email suchosju  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
thank you