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jlwurm
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posted 8/13/2009 3:25:35 PM    Click here to view the profile for jlwurm  Click here to email jlwurm  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Looking for any information about my great uncle Francis Le Roux. ABMC has him listed as dying on April 15, 1945. Any information about his time in the 56th Inf., Where he died or how he died, or any pictures would be very helpful.
Jonathan Wurm

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 8/17/2009 7:24:37 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Please contact the Unit Representative to the Hellcat News
Otis Shull. He will put an announcement in the News.

email:

ogsjss@aol.com

Yours truly, Mike Woldenberg

I will be in touch, I need to do some research.
My Uncle Lt. Charles M. Willis is also buried at St. Avold.


Ken
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posted 8/18/2009 5:59:46 AM    Click here to view the profile for Ken  Click here to email Ken  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
In 1973 all WW2 U.S. Army veterans’ records were destroyed in a National Archives warehouse fire. These records were never duplicated, leaving a massive void in our history. Ironically, there are records of those killed in action, maintained by the Department Of The Army and the Department Of Veterans Affairs.

What the records contain and do not contain. The Department Of The Army records are titled Individual Deceased Personnel File [IDPF], and as the title states, it is the death record of a veteran. I have my uncle’s file; he was killed at Steinwald Forrest January 16, 1945. His file is 37 pages, covering the date he was declared dead, his personal effects, and his initial and final internment at Epinal Cemetery, France, letters between his parents and the War Department, referencing life insurance payments, and returning his remains to the family for burial. In addition, documents which describe his fatal wounds, and some of his awards The IDPF is not gruesome to read, but is emotionally stressful.

How to obtain the IDPF; write to The Dept of The Army, U.S. Army Human Resources Command, 200 Stovall Street, Alexandra, VA 22332-400. Since these records fall under the freedom of information act [FOIA] you must state your relationship to the deceased. Include you are the oldest child, is his wife still living or not etc. Your loved one’s ASN, if you don’t have it, contact me. His DOB, hometown, and any other data you have. I suggest you send your request via certified mail, return receipt. The request will take at least a year before you get the record, but are worth the wait.


Next is the Dept of VA. Easier and faster than the IDPF, these records will contain medical records, life insurance applications, birth certificates, correspondence between his parents and the VA. My uncle’s record contains 44 pages.

NOTE: I HAVE BEEN TOLD THE VA NOW REQUIRES THESE REQUESTS TO BE IN WRITING, BUT START WITH THE CALL.


As required by the IDPF, this record falls under the FOIA, use the same letter you used for the IDPF and the same data about your loved one. The file I have, has no name, but is designated by a series of reference numbers, 373/21/mal and XC 3 867 481. I am sure one of these refers to my uncle’s file and the other is the designation for the VA as to what record category you are requesting. Feel free to use this data to describe your request to the VA.

Next look up the 800 number for the VA, one number serves the entire U.S., when dialed it will route you to your closest VA office. Explain what you want. These records are held in a central depository located in or near your dad’s home state. When I went through the process, the VA located my uncle’s record within a minute or two. At that point request the record be sent to your local VA [the one you called] office. They will notify you by mail when it arrives, and the arrangements for copying. I think the whole process took less than a month.

If you have questions just ask.
Regards,



MikeWoldenberg
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posted 8/18/2009 10:02:04 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hello again,
Francis Le Roux was in Company C and was killed, as you
have said, on April 15.On April 14 the headquarters travelled from Sugenheim to Nesselbach. On April 15th the Headquarters was set up in Nesselbach and they travelled to Kotzenaurach. The weather was cold and the
roads were "poor". If you look on a map, find Ansbach, northof Dillingen on the Danube. North of Ansbach you will find Nesselbach (I hope).

See on the left: BOOKS AND WRITTEN EXPERIENCES
Then find HISTORY OF THE 56TH ARMORED INFANTRY BATTALION. There are other details in this diary-type document.

Mike W.