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Bob Scherer
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From: Yardley, PA
Registered: 10/11/2005
posted 10/11/2005 8:18:29 PM    Click here to view the profile for Bob Scherer  Click here to email Bob Scherer  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
First let me express my deepest gratitude to the members of the 12th Armored Division for their service and sacrifice that, in part, have allowed subsequesnt generations to grow up free. Secondly, my thanks to the people who have put this webite together. I have been searching several WWII divisional websites. You have the most comprehensive and user friendly one I have found. Well done!

I'm seeking information on my father, 2nd Lt. Walter Scherer. After service in North Africa, he joined the 45th Infantry Division in late September in Epinal, France. Sometime between September 1944 and 1 April 1945 he was transferred to the 12th AD, 66th AIB. On 1 Apr 45 he was wounded and medevaced home. I recall him telling me that he was very near to the town of Landstuhl, near Kaiserslautern in Germany when he was wounded. Ironically, Landstuhl was where his father was born in 1873...Dad never saw the town. The other thing I remember is that he said he was one of the white officers assigned to be a platoon leader for one of the Infantry platoons made up of black volunteers used to fill personnel shortages in line units. I know that must have happened after his transfer since the 45th ID didn't have any of those black platoons.

I've been mistakenly searching for information through the 45th ID website with minimal results. Earlier this evening I found Dad on your 17,000 member list. It's the best feeling I've had since I found my "missing" relatives in Landstuhl Germany 4 years ago. Thank you.

Dad passed away in 1987 and, as with most WWII vets, didn't talk much about his service during the war. Unfortunately, I joined the Army in '74 and only saw him for short visits after that, so I missed the opportunity to ask too many questions. Any information or leads anyone can provide on either my father or the integration of black soldiers into combat divisions during the war would be greatly apprecaited.

Again, thanks for a great site!



Ken
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Registered: 4/29/2004
posted 10/13/2005 11:16:13 AM    Click here to view the profile for Ken  Click here to email Ken  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hi Bob,

I am a Legacy Member of the 12th Armored Association, and my lineage is also with the 66th AIB.

I took the liberty of copying your message and sending it to many of the 66th veterans who have Email and to my fellow Legacy Members.

Thank you for your accolades about the 12th AD and the website. We also have a museum in Abilene TX and another website linked here http://12tharmoreddivision.com/ Please immerse yourself in both sites as there are many books, photos, personal stories which will contribute to your knowledge about your Dad's life with the 12th AD and the 66th AIB.

We also invite you to join our association, which publishes a monthly newspaper, containing personal stories, photos, and details of our reunions.

What can we do to help find more information about your Dad?

Regards,

Ken Klinedinst


MikeWoldenberg
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posted 10/13/2005 2:44:16 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Dear Bob, I just checked the book:
C - 66 by Muscles Emery. Your Dad was not in Company C. I am looking into some information about Company D from the 56th.
This was the company of African American
soldiers.

I might mention that your Dad was wounded on
Easter Sunday.

More later:

Mike Woldenberg, also a legacy member.


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posted 10/15/2005 9:47:30 AM  Reply w/Quote
Bob Scherer:
In March 1945 each 12th AD Armored Infantry Battalion had a negro volunteer company assigned as Seventh U.S. Army Inf Co. (provisional). These men and their NCO’s were all black. All commissioned officers, like your father, were white. The companies became Co. D’s of the battalions.
On Mar 31 - Apr 1 the 66th attacked in the vicinity of Nassig near Wertheim. I couldn’t spot Landstuhl on my map but the town must be near the Tauber River because the 12th was knocking heads with the Hitler Jugend there at Eastertime. However 66th Co. D attacked Nassig and old Nassig citizens have told me they still remember the black Americans.
I couldn’t find your Dad in any of the old Association rosters so presume he never joined. However, I see your msg was fwded to Ward McGill of Co. B 66th who was in the Nassig fracas, too, and to the 66th Unit Rep of the 12th Association. I don’t know if any results will come from that. Anyway, I am glad to hear you found your Dad’s name on the web site.
F. George Hatt, Jr. A/17th AIB
Past Historian 12th AD Association

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 10/15/2005 6:28:11 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Dear Bob, According to the book "C 66" which I believe is on this web site under Books and Written Experiences, I found information that might be of interest to you on page 248. This may be the information quoted by George Hatt. "Task force number 1, whose infantry was B-66 and D-66 (colored) encountered strong enemy resistance at Nassig and was forced to employ the entire task force to clear the town." This took place on March 31. There are a couple of pages of interest, and then
on page 251, "First Lt. Joseph Stanley Husid, Platoon leader of the second platoon
(of C 66) who left 10 March 1945 on Temporary Duty to command D 66, was officially transferred" .....to D 66.

April 1
A66 and C 66 (Task force 2) mopped up Waldbuttelbrunn. They then attacked Hettstadt. Moved to vicinity of Zell am Main on about April 2. Also, on
page 254, D-66 was part of Task Force one.
Also included in this task force was 43d
Tank, B-66, Battery of the 493 Armored Field
Artillery, 2-D-43d Tank Battalion.

Page 260 Task force 2 was not able to reach
Hettstadt before Task force 1 was forced to
withdraw. Then task Force 2 recaptured the town (on April 1) at 6:30 p.m.

From all this, I assume your father may have been wounded at or near Hettstadt on April first, Easter Sunday. I think you might read
these very pages from this website.

Mike Woldenberg: geomike@buffalo.edu

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 10/15/2005 6:35:55 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Bob, I am only able to read pages 1-16 of C- 66 from this website. I believe the Museum will sell the book. I could xerox a few
pages for you.

Mike

geomike@buffalo.edu

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posted 11/8/2005 9:49:47 PM  Reply w/Quote
Mr. Hatt -

Thanks so much for your response. Sorry it has taken me so long to respond. My Mom fell and was hospitalized on 12 Oct. She's 4 hrs away so I've spent all me free time driving. This is the first chance I've had to check the 12th AD site. I will continue my search as time allows. Thanks again.

Bob Scherer

Originally posted by Guest:
Bob Scherer:
In March 1945 each 12th AD Armored Infantry Battalion had a negro volunteer company assigned as Seventh U.S. Army Inf Co. (provisional). These men and their NCO’s were all black. All commissioned officers, like your father, were white. The companies became Co. D’s of the battalions.
On Mar 31 - Apr 1 the 66th attacked in the vicinity of Nassig near Wertheim. I couldn’t spot Landstuhl on my map but the town must be near the Tauber River because the 12th was knocking heads with the Hitler Jugend there at Eastertime. However 66th Co. D attacked Nassig and old Nassig citizens have told me they still remember the black Americans.
I couldn’t find your Dad in any of the old Association rosters so presume he never joined. However, I see your msg was fwded to Ward McGill of Co. B 66th who was in the Nassig fracas, too, and to the 66th Unit Rep of the 12th Association. I don’t know if any results will come from that. Anyway, I am glad to hear you found your Dad’s name on the web site.
F. George Hatt, Jr. A/17th AIB
Past Historian 12th AD Association


joseph
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Registered: 11/17/2005
posted 2/13/2006 4:44:41 PM    Click here to view the profile for joseph  Click here to email joseph  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hello Bob Sherer: I do not know much about the men of various units because I was in ASTP at Ohio State when the 12th ADA went on maneuvers and overseas. But if you will look above you name on the Message Board you will see an article "Finding your friend or relative". Did you try sending a form 180 to St. Louis, MO. However, February is Black Soldiers month and I have two stories from the Military Officers Association Magazine which I could send to you if you send me your name and address at jecho12@msn.com I was still on active duty in 1954-1955 when the integration of black soldiers was started. As a Company Commander I was assigned 17 black soldiers from Korea. I assigned two men to each of 6 75 mm Anti-Aircraft Gun Sections. These guns were controlled by a radar and computer. A couple were assigned to the kitchen, the motor pool and the supply room. All performed as well as any other troops after a few weeks of training. It was good to see that MiKe and Ken and George have responded to your search.

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posted 8/20/2007 6:30:52 PM  Reply w/Quote
Mr Scherer,
Landstuhl is not near the Tauber River. At present it is the largest US Military Hospital complex in Germany. Landstuhl Regional Medical Center.
I am quite familiar with the battle at Nassig-Wertheim in 1945 as I grew up nearby . Keep up the good work.

RP

Bob Scherer
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From: Yardley, PA
Registered: 10/11/2005
posted 10/8/2007 12:38:57 PM    Click here to view the profile for Bob Scherer  Click here to email Bob Scherer  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
RP -

Thank you very much for your comment! I was in Germany 2 weeks ago, visiting friends and family in Landstuhl, but did not have the few hours necessary to make it to Nassig or Hettstadt, where my father was wounded on 1 Apr 45, putting an end to his war.

I would be very interested in corresponding with you to learn more of the battle at Nassig. My father was awarded the Bronze Star for his part in that engagement.

Please respond to my personal email address - robert.scherer1@us.army.mil as well as on this website.

My family and I usually return to Germany annually and I would like to meet you and learn more.

Again, my thanks for your response.

Bob Scherer


Originally posted by Guest:
Mr Scherer,
Landstuhl is not near the Tauber River. At present it is the largest US Military Hospital complex in Germany. Landstuhl Regional Medical Center.
I am quite familiar with the battle at Nassig-Wertheim in 1945 as I grew up nearby . Keep up the good work.

RP