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jack golski
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posted 8/27/2019 1:30:03 PM    Click here to view the profile for jack golski  Click here to email jack golski  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
My dad was with the 929th Ord HAM Co. during WWII and I have his discharge papers. I am trying to determine where he spent time while deployed in France and Germany from 16 Jan.1945 until 29 Nov. 1945

Garandomatic
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posted 8/29/2019 2:59:09 PM    Click here to view the profile for Garandomatic  Click here to email Garandomatic  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Ordnance Companies like that are interesting to me, and many, it seems, were attached to or worked around divisions. The 929th doesn't seem to have been a part of the 12th itself, and I googled "929th Ordnance" to try to learn more. The first result was an earlier post on here from Bob Bitting, as his father's discharge also read 929th. For him, Bob Scherer and Harry Dhans were able to determine that he was in the 714th Tank Battalion and just came home with the 929th. The case may be the same for your father, but I did not see a Golski in the Division Rosters.

The discrepancy in units comes from several factors. If a guy had low points, he might stay in Europe when his unit came home. If he was high, he might leave his unit and come home early with some other outfit. 12th Armored guys came home with the 1st and 2nd Armored as well as 771st Tank Battalion. Also, the 2nd and 100th Infantry Divisions were a lot of Hellcats' "coming home" units. I have seen about half a dozen uniforms this year alone that belonged to men that fought with the 84th Infantry Division and came home with the 12th.

Since another Hellcat came home with the 929th, it could mean that your dad was a Hellcat that came home with the 929th and just isn't in the rosters, which happens occasionally, or he was with the 929th and came home with the 12th!

If you post his name, I will do some digging for you, and if you are looking at a discharge from your father, try to look for his qualifications, when he left the US and when he left the ETO. If you have pictures, if you could describe the uniform itself and what patches are on the shoulders, it might help. In my experience, the 4 pocket service coat is most commonly seen in the US before the Hellcats shipped out. Most (not all) seem to have switched to Ike jackets before they came home. Khakis could be stateside or Summer of 1945, so the background would be important.



MikeWoldenberg
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posted 8/31/2019 5:41:36 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hello Jack, I checked the archives: 1) the Hellcat News;
and (2) the six very large scrapbooks. I searched
unsuccessfully for the
name Golski. It is very unusual for a man in the division
who is not mentioned in these archives, unless he was
a replacement and arrived in the last two or three months of the war. If I had to bet, I think your Dad
was not in the 12th Armored. I will try a couple of other
things.

Mike

MikeWoldenberg
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posted 8/31/2019 6:08:14 PM    Click here to view the profile for MikeWoldenberg  Click here to email MikeWoldenberg  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Hello, I have learned that H.A.M. stands for
"Heavy Automotive Maintenance". I can find nothing
(yet) on the 929th Ordnance (H.A.M.) Company.
Perhaps this company was attached to the 12th
Armored for a while, but they are not listed as an
attachment in the 12th Armored Order of Battle.
If i knew your father's first name and rank and the town or city where he was inducted into the Army it might help. I have a question: How did you conclude that
your father was part of the 12th Armored Division? Was this on his discharge papers? AS Garandomatic
said, he might have been assigned to the 12th Armored on his way trip home.

Mike

Bob Scherer
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posted 9/1/2019 10:00:56 PM    Click here to view the profile for Bob Scherer  Click here to email Bob Scherer  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Jack,
If you can scan and email me you Dad's discharge papers and any other documents you have relative to his service I may be able to glean some more info from them for you. Please email to rwscherer@verizon.net.
Mike - good comments.
Garandomatic - great comments also! We appreciate your help!!
Bob Scherer

Garandomatic
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posted 9/2/2019 10:57:10 AM    Click here to view the profile for Garandomatic  Click here to email Garandomatic  edit/delete post  Reply w/Quote
Any time!